So if South Park a Tiktok episode do you guys think Stan & Wendy will have shared Tiktok account just Kyle & Tolkien. What do you guys think?
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This was the very first episode I ever watched, so it already has a special place in my heart. When I rewatched it, I realized it was even better than I previously thought.
This is undoubtedly one of my favorite South Park episodes. The whole plot being centered around Stan and Kyle’s friendship makes it a masterpiece of an episode. From the beginning, when we see them having fun together, to the middle when we see just how much they’re not having fun playing without each other’s company, to the end when we see them reconcile and reach the million.
Throughout the episode, music is used brilliantly to underscore the major emotional beats. “Carry On My Wayward Son” being used when the boys are at the peak of their stardom, “Cherry Pie” being used as the song to underscore their fallout, “I Wanna Be Sedated”, representing Stan having fallen too far into Heroine Hero and wrecking his newfound fame, “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” being the song Kyle plays to properly capture his feelings of losing Stan, having to play alone, and missing out on Stan’s fame and fortune, and “I Remember You” being the last song Kyle plays at the bowling alley to masterfully underscore his and Stan’s reconciliation.
One of my favorite bits is seeing the change in expression on Kyle’s face as Stan walks in, and the camera switches to Kyle’s POV as the lyrics “The wind would whisper and I'd think of you” play. The lyrics tie in beautifully with the whole scene.
“The wind would whisper and I'd think of you
And all the tears you cried, that called my name,
And when you needed me I came through”.
Stan’s speech to Kyle about how what really mattered wasn’t the wild parties, but playing with his best friend, was a very touching moment. The way he restores both Kyle’s confidence, and their friendship, is absolutely wonderful character writing.
Then, of course, we get the humorous “YOU. ARE. FAGS!” joke, which is always funny to see.
Speaking of jokes, this episode has quite a few funny ones. The “solo” that Thad plays on the controller, the aforementioned “FAGS” joke, Randy’s scenes in general, the whole “Heroine Hero” fiasco, and my personal favorite: “You BLEW it! You had it all and you BLEW it!”
Favorite moment: Easily Stan and Kyle’s reconciliation.
Funniest moment: “You BLEW it!”
Overall: 9.5/10. A damn-near perfect episode imo.
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Allot of people here seem to really like 'pinkeye' but to be honest, it doesn't get a very high score from me as far as south park episodes go.
but there's a couple halloween episodes that i barely enjoy at all; the 'tegridy halloween special', and my least favorite; 'sons a witches'. they both have similar problems; randy being randy, a somewhat generic random monster terrorizing the town trope, and trey dumping his uninteresting marital issues into the episode (which he seems to do allot of). the more times i watch the heidi/cartman arc, the more annoying it becomes, and butters' mummy isn't that much better.
I think you all know what the episode “Cartman sucks” is about and I kinda wanna talk about it
It just hit me real hard, especially as a gay trans man
I haven’t watched every single south park episode yet but this is probably one of the saddest for me, i know it ends “good” with the kid not killing himself but i often think about how these camps still exist in real life
It leaves a bittersweet tone in my head full well knowing that with a chance i could’ve ended in one of these camps too
Just reading about it on the wiki here already made me tear up
These thoughts have been in my head ever since i saw the episode on television a bit ago and i just really needed to talk about it
What are your thoughts on the episode?
tweek vs craig has 3 plots; the A plot of the tweek and craig fight, the B plot of mr. adler and his dead fiancee, and the C plot of kenny and the home-ec class. these plots barely interact with eachother except in a very contrived way at the end, and they have no obvious thematic parallels either. this troubles me because not only would it be easy to expand the A plot into its own episode, but the whole setting of a shop class has so much good potential in its own right but the episode we got uses almost none of it.
Here is the article for refference: https://southpark.fandom.com/wiki/Tweek_vs._Craig
now imagine taking all the tweek and craig stuff and expanding that into its own episode which i'll refer to as "the fight" to avoid confusion, then take all the kenny and mr. adler stuff and combine it with a new shop class plot and turn that into the "shop class" episode. here's my idea of what those might look like:
the fight:
this one is fairly straight forward;
have all the scenes in the shop class take place on the playground instead.
make it harder to convince tweek and craig to fight eachother both initially and throughout the episode
give tweek and craig more distinct hangups to overcome; maybe tweek is afraid of fighting and doesn't want to get in trouble, whereas craig procrastinates and would rather watch cartoons than train. now the kyle/stan/tweek side, and the cartman/kenny/craig side feel more like a distinct A plot and B plot.
finally, add in a very slight C plot with the dads.
essentially all the new scenes would go between the first fight, where they realize they need to be trained, and the scenes of them training. i'm imagining a long sequence of cartman trying to get craig to leave the couch, and craig just giving him the finger each time. then cartman makes kenny climb onto the roof and pull off the satellite dish, but this doesn't work and kenny falls to his death in the process. an equally long sequence with tweek would be intercut with this one. i'm imagining tweek starts off sparing with stan as kyle provokes him with insults on the side, and when that doesn't work they go to jimbo and ned, and there they try to overcome his anxiety before he's able to beat up ned, maybe they try spiking his coffee with jimbo's booze (maybe moonshine) and that backfires by making him sick. eventually stan and kyle realize they can threaten tweek with something that makes him even more anxious, and this is what helps him overcome his anxiety.
as this is happening there can be a scene with tweek's and craig's dads on the phone faming worry about this fight, but it turns out that they each want to know who would win as badly as the boys do, and they work the conversation around to betting on who would win. after this, craig's dad can be the one that 'punishes' craig for wanting to fight by revoking his tv privlges, then slipping him some money for sumo training. now we get the sumo scene and the ned getting kicked in the balls scene.
the main fight might stay outside or crash through a bus or classroom window instead of the shop class, and it can be broken up by mr. mackey, ms. crabtree, or perhaps by the rarely seen recess attendant lady. then add a scene where principle victoria tell the dads that their sons had to be taken to the emergency room, but all they care about is finding out who won. after that is the hospital scene and the episode ends.
shop class:
this episode would need slightly more restructuring;
Rather than simply expanding the plots that are already there, i think this episode really ought to have a whole new plot to be the A plot, one that would ideally tie together the themes of love and loss, and gender. well there just happens to be an interesting throw away line in "tweek vs craig" that can give us some ideas: wendy says "i requested to be in shop class, but they sent me here". so here's what i'm thinking; not a wendy plot, but rather a stan plot where he becomes overly worried about wendy's safety and gets in her way as she tries to join shop class.
some changes would be needed in the mr. adler plot too;
his hangup about his fiancee should be that he couldn't protect her rather than not getting to say goodbye.
i don't think anyone would take issue with cutting down on the flashback scenes; there are 4 of them plus his hallucination at the end looking into kenny's hood. at least 1 of these should be cut completely.
have mr. adler's 3rd act take place in class with everyone there, but the class won't really notice him. - side note: tablesaws don't normally come equipped with conveyor belts, but whatever.
rather than his hallucination with kenny at the end, he'll just see it in the picture he carries around.
kenny's plot would change for the third act where he'll remain in home-ec instead of transferring to shop. there he can die from a culinary accident at the very end.
other gags;
kyle and cartman should each have recuring gags in shop class. maybe kyle keeps trying to make stuff but randomly keeps making dreidels by mistake. and maybe cartman keeps making sadistic inventions like a birdhouse with a mousetrap in it, or a ring box that squirts lemon juice into your eye when you open it. or maybe the joke should be that no one actually makes anything in shop class, and instead they just play around with the machines, filing down wood until it's nothing but sawdust.
chef should also get some scenes like defending kenny's choice to be in home-ec (seeing as chef literally cooks for a living), this is where he can talk about shop class horror stories that scare the crap out of stan. he can also come into home-ec where he would flirt with pearl and break out into a song.
here's how i see the new plot and the new 3rd act playing out;
day 1 (act 1)
in shop class stan is excited to be there and says he wants to make something to give to wendy.
in the lunch line stan tells wendy about how cool shop class is, and wendy gets the idea to transfer. then between cartman's sexist comments, and chef warning them about the horrific mutilations that can happen, stan becomes obsessively worried. at the lunch table he watches wendy from a distance, and that causes him to throw up.
at night stan has nightmares about wendy experiencing the horrific mutilations chef talked about.
day 2 (act 2)
stan tells kyle and cartman that he's had to stop eating because his nervousness keeps making him throw up.
stan fames helping wendy while trying to convince her that she would actually hate it in shop class by saying it's stinky and that the teacher is really mean. when that doesn't work, he says he'll talk to mr. adler for her.
he then tries to sabotage wendy by telling mr. adler she likes to screw around in class, this gets his attention but he ultimately just hands stan a transfer request form and says she only needs to fill that out and hand it in.
later stan tells wendy what he learned but lies and says there weren't any more transfer forms and all the printers were broken so there's no chance of her getting a form. but wendy says that's ok because she got a transfer form from pearl, and she's already turned it in, and she starts shop class tomorrow.
day 3 (act 3)
in home-ec, chef interrupts pearl's lesson and seduces her with a song. pearl tells the class about the value of being opportunistic, then orders them to do some cooking while her and chef go to another room.
wendy is now in shop class while stan who is sleep deprived, nauseous, and hungry, watches her nervously. mr. adler writes his suice note and gets on the tablesaw conveyor belt, no one in class notices. wendy comes close to danger several times like having her hair inch very close to spinning machinery, stan's reaction would be intercut with this with him fainting at the end. this causes mr. adler to cut short his suicide attempt and run over to help. kyle explains that stan had stopped eating, and they rush stan over to the the home-ec class.
stan is revived with some food, and he explains himself to wendy and they come to an understanding and between them they relay the moral of the episode; don't stand in the way of people you care about, and don't let concern for others distract from your own well-being.
upon overhearing this, mr. adler has his hallucination where his fiancee relays a similar message. pearl and chef come back from having sex and mr. adler asks pearl out on another date and she says yes. chef backs away quietly.
kenny slips and knocks over a pot of boiling oil which scolds him to death. and after a "omg they killed kenny, you bastards!", the boys acknowlage that home-ec can actually be really dangerous too.
the end.
I just joined SP Fandom but I have almost no idea of how to post, except (I hope) here in general discussions. I actually wanted to contribute to the trivia page about the episode "South Park is Gay!", specifically in the section called "References to Popular culture". But each attempt to add something (as an "Edit") failed to show on the page. This was even after I successfully responded to the request for email confirmation. Can anyone help me understand how to contribute without getting heavily involved or learning to be an expert?
What I tried to post there was this:
Chef says the latest expression used by black people that has not yet been co-opted by white people is "flippity floppity floop". That happens to be from a 1957 Bugs Bunny cartoon ("Ali Baba Bunny") in which Bugs poses as a genie and casts a spell by doing a crazy dance as he chants a few words of gibberish, ending in "flippity floppity floop."
I need everyone here to tell me. Am I the only person who absolutely hates the episode “Dead Kids” so much that it might be my least favorite episode? It was so painful to sit through. And it wasn’t cause Sharon was “overreacting”, no Randy was the real problem in this episode. He’s such a jerk! Instead of even trying to think about what his wife is going through, he instantly blames hormones on this! In fact, it really bugged me how everyone just brushed off these school shootings. Look, I get it, the point was, “it’s hard to be upset when they happen this much” but that does not make me like this episode. As it was just so awful to be seeing this as straight up nothing. Not to mention how no one is panicking when a shooter is in the school. How are you keeping so calm and resuming class? Shouldn’t you be going into freaking lockdown? Anyway, like I said, Randy just acts so horrible here. Keep in mind that he calls his wife the b-word cause of her concern over the shootings. I’m not even joking. Right before this, he says that he worries about finding out of a school shooting, cause it causes her wife to be concerned. You know, instead of being worried at what the shootings cause! It just gets worse when they say that Sharon is “unappreciative” because of how she’s acting. Which she is in full right to be acting like this cause if how everyone else views her during this time. Sharon finally says that she wants people to be upset at this for obvious reasons. But instead every single person says she’s just being negative. Are you serious? That makes her negative?!? And because everyone is upset with Sharon, she decides to apologize to Randy. Oh come on! The only likable adult in this episode got convinced by this? This ending is what originally drew me in to hating this episode. Why? Well Stan has been shot, (doesn’t help he’s my favorite character) but what makes it so disgusting is that Sharon “realizes” it’s not a big deal. You have got to be kidding me! And it doesn’t even seems like Randy really cares either. I always see Sharon as one of the most sane adults in South Park and loves her family. But thanks to all the other adults and… Randy… she got to the point where she didn’t care about her son getting hurt. This ending is where I got my breaking point and threw my phone across the room. Sharon, please, don’t think your overreacting, you just made gain a lot of respect for you cause I see that you care about things a lot. And Randy, keep in mind, you’re horrible. Im sorry to those who disagree, but this episode is easily among my least favorite episodes, but it’s most likely my least favorite episode cause of how awful it was to watch.
I know lots of people already know what he looks like, but i'll like to point out on s15 e7 you can also see his face
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