User talk:Neocarleen

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Heroes & Villains Categories
Neocarleen, I understand that you have deleted 2 categories that goes under the names of Heroes & Villains a few months back, and I wanna ask you this, Why delete those categories?

I know you said that they were Unnecessary pages, but how were they so unnecessary? like, didn't we get heroes like Mint-Berry Crunch, & villains like Mecha-Streisand in South Park?

from GodzillaIsland7.2
 * ~ Because they were so abused. Users would add them to every single character, usually just for Achievement Boosting. The admins were getting annoyed with constantly moderating those two specific categories, and they just weren't worth it. [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] Neocarleen  •  Talk  [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] 00:54, November 22, 2011 (UTC)

Wow! those people really need to not care about Achievement Boosting & care more about the character's true nature, Right?

from GodzillaIsland7.2

Image Project
Me and Niko finished the image project. I made a blog post about it but I was unsure of how to put it in the news category. GamePlaya3159 20:49, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ ... You... You finished it? You guys are incredible!
 * If you still need something to do, you can go through some of the other ones. A lot of them do have images, but they are poorer quality. [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]]  Neocarleen  •  Talk  [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] 06:51, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

Season 16 start time
It was officially announced on the South Park FAQs that Season Sixteen starts on March 14, 2012. The slider time goes to April 1, 2012. (Proved my many internet calculators. Also, if you type from November 24 (date of this post)tto March 14, 2012, it's 111 days and not the 129 days on the slider.) Thanks. Cartermac4 22:26, November 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ Thank you. I was waiting until South Park Studios officially announced the date. I knew it would be sometime in March or April, so I just put the countdown to April 1st in the meantime. I've updated it now, so now it's accurate. [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]]  Neocarleen  •  Talk  [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] 06:51, November 25, 2011 (UTC)

The Raisins Girls & More
Hi Neocarleen. Me and GamePlaya3159 were looking over the fanon-based names for the unnamed Raisins girls, and we find that nonfactual information "cheapens" the wiki, a naming scheme for them could be created. I, as well as GamePlaya3159, are hoping to keep the wiki as factual as possible. An example of which a fanon-based name is removed is that of Carol McCormick. We are hoping, that, if you agree, we can remove these fanon-based names and replace with a naming scheme. We are hoping that we can merge all of the unnamed Raisins girls into one page, which provides all of the info on the unnamed girls', which is not a lot, so the page should not become cluttered or messy. The information on each page is generally repetitive, and we believe we can merge it into one page beautifully. If any of the unnamed Raisins' girls are expanded upon in future episodes, it would be easy to remove her from the page and give her her own article, much like Lexus or Mercedes. The pages in question are: Volvo, Acura, Saturn, Savana, Kia, Honda, Audi, Infiniti, and Hyundai. Also, it seems that the black hair category is useless, considering we have hair color in the character template. We think it falls under "over-categorization", and therefore, should be removed from the wiki. Thanks and have a nice day! Nikolaitttt 05:16, November 26, 2011 (UTC) & GamePlaya3159

 Neocarleen  •  Talk   06:04, November 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ You're right, and I completely agree. Feel free to make a combined article for them using whatever naming scheme you deem fit.
 * I appreciate your continual contributions to the wiki. It would be worthless with dedicated editors like you. I have just given the rollback ability so you can continue to do the excellent job you're doing.

Thanks Neocarleen, I'm working on merging the pages. I have also nominated the Characters with Black Hair Category to be deleted, could you delete it? Thanks and have a nice day! :). Nikolaitttt 20:25, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * ~ I can delete the category, but you should go through all the pages and take the category off of them first. [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] Neocarleen  •  Talk  [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] 20:48, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Hey Neo! I went ahead and removed all of the characters from the category. The category can be deleted. We were also thinking of starting a character project where we go to all of the character pages and make sure they all have the character template. Niko and Aguziel are making really good headway on The Raisins Girls page. It looks pretty cool!   GamePlaya3159  •  Talk   21:36, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Concerning Shipping
Hi, I have a little query regarding a specific trivia entry on the Ass Burgers/Trivia page. I originally stuck this query on that article's discussion page, but seeing as no one has replied, I'm assuming nobody looks at the discussion logs of sub-pages of episode articles.

Anyway, the trivia entry in question:
 * "When the two creepy boys comment that Kyle and Wendy should 'just screw and get it over with', it is making fun of those who create online fanfiction that dives deeper into characters' relationships. Matt Stone has been asked how he feels about these in the past and he simply said, 'I try not to think about it.'"

In regards to the bolded part, I've been wondering whether a reliable source exists for this claim. I found it a little out of character for him, I never would've thought he'd find it disturbing, if nothing else I thought he'd find it mildly hilarious. A number of search attempts later, the closest thing I got to was this: (which was from an online interview dated to around 2005; I figure another statement could have been made since then)
 * Interviewer: "What do you think about South Park fanfiction? Especially the more adult variety?"
 * Matt Stone: "Never read any fanfiction. Sorry. I guess I'm afraid it will be good."

My reasons for inquiring are twofold; firstly, I think an evaluation of the veracity of this statement is necessary in order to maintain the factual integrity of this Wiki; and secondly, I think shipping is, err, really great and I'd like to find out what Matt and Trey actually think about it. Are you aware of any interview wherein Matt expressed that sentiment?

I figured you'd be the most knowledgeable on the subject, so I thought if anyone knew it'd be you. If all else fails I'll go find out who added the trivia entry and ask them directly. Anyway, thanks in advance. - Gastropod 13:39, November 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * ~ The only thing I can can find on the subject is from a fans interview on a South Park Sudio board back in 2005. Matt Stone said he "Never read any [South Park Slash]. Probably wouldn't like it. But never tried it so can't say...." The full Q&A is here. (See #27).

  Neocarleen  •  Talk   20:48, November 26, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for the heads-up! I'll go back and change that specific trivia entry for the time being; if anyone comes up with any evidence to support the initial claim, they can always add it back with an adequate citation - Gastropod 13:31, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Rollback
Whoa, thanks for the rollback rights (if this isn't a mistake). I will not let you down. - Gastropod 01:14, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Original Bass to Mouth Episodical Icon
Excuses me, Neocarleen, but I just wanted to ask you this, Where should I put this picture?

Should I put it on the Bass to Mouth/Trivia article or should I put it on the South Park Episodical Icons article?

You decide.

from GodzillaIsland7.2


 * ~ The best place would be on the South Park Episodical Icons page, under the Trivia section.

Boosters
Hi Neocarleen. I'd like to warn you of a potential booster, GodzillaIsland7.2, he seems to be going through pages and removing spaces, which has no effect on the article itself. I did ask him to stop, and he did, then he went through adding all the spaces back in (instead of just rolling back, since he has rollback rights), getting him even more edits. He has also removed this message twice, which is a violation of the rules about not editing others' talk pages.

P.S.: Godzillaisland7.2, I have taken screenshots of this message as well as screenshots of logs, showing you removing my message to Neocarleen. Don't do remove this message again, you're only digging yourself a deeper hole.

  nikolaitttt  •  Talk   19:29, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Goth Leader/Tall Goth
I would like to bring to your attention the subject of the "Goth Leader" of "Tall Goth". I am not sure that Goth groups generally have a leader (although yes South Park isn't real life) and though "Tall Goth" may be a fanon name; there has never been an official name for this character. This topic really bugs me because I know "Tall Goth" isn't exactly a good name but I feel it is the most appropriate since others in this group are associated with appearance, e.g. Red Goth and Kindergoth. The only potential act of leadership was inducting Stan into the group, however the rest were also involved in this process. What would help is some canonical back up, like official establishment as the leader or better yet a name. However, I ask you how you feel. I have previously changed pretty much all references on this wiki (as far as I can find) to this character to "Tall Goth". I understand that many think of him as the "Goth Leader" so should I change it all back? Thank you for your attention, Cryptar 21:57, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you. With any luck we can get more information about this character. Cryptar 07:50, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

Question
Hi Neocarleen. GamePlaya3159 has come up with a standardized character guideline (User:GamePlaya3159/Sandbox), and we were wondering, for special cases such as Kenny, who have extra sections like "References to Other Media", if we could place such sections in subpages that we would list under "See More", we are trying to avoid subpages, but sections like that are quite long, and the inclusion of them in one article and not the next would break the "standardization" we are attempting. We are also continuing to work on the character template so it does not look as sloppy. Thanks and have a nice day. :).

  nikolaitttt  •  Talk   02:34, November 28, 2011 (UTC) & GamePlaya3159


 * I changed the word template to guideline. I think the overall goal with this is to make it easier for users to create new characters without guessing how they should do it. What I also want to accomplish is standardize the other characters that arent using the Template:South Park character template. I think it will make the characters look really nice and uniform. I'm still working on the sample linked to above but it's coming along. What do you think? Thanks! :)
 * craigicon.png  GamePlaya3159  •  Talk  craigicon.png 04:26, November 28, 2011 (UTC)

GamePlaya3159
Hi Neocarleen. I would like to recommend GamePlaya3159 for adminship. Every recent project so far has been a combination of his, mine, yours, and Aguziel's (and others) ideas. He also shows extreme dedication to the wiki. The character project was originally his idea, I think he is dedicated to the standardization and beautification of the wiki. I also believe him being an admin will make it easier for him to work on the character project when another admin is not around. Thanks and have a nice day! :).   nikolaitttt  •  Talk   16:18, November 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ I agree. He's done a lot of great work for the wiki, and he can do a lot more with administrative abilities.
 * By the way, the character template looks excellent. Good luck with the character pages. [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]]  Neocarleen  •  Talk  [[File:MysterionSprite.gif]] 00:20, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Bureaucrat Status
This is an unexpected and most pleasant surprise. I can say now that I am most thankful, so thankful that I am not sure how to express it... only that I hope to thoroughly use this power for the best interests of the wiki. Cryptar 21:24, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ Anon and I are the only Bureaucrats, and both of us aren't very active as of late.


 * It's probably about time I archived my talk page. How would I do that please? Cryptar 22:00, November 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * ~ I did it for you.


 * Ah, thank you. That looks much better now. Cryptar 22:12, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

Wendy Testaburger
Hi Neocarleen. I, along with GamePlaya3159 are worried about a strange error in Category:Characters, it seems Wendy Testaburger is under "T" instead of "W". GamePlaya3159 says he has seen more pages miscategorized as well. We have tried deleting and then readding the category, as well as renaming the page to Wendy, then renaming it back to Wendy Testaburger, and nothing has worked. Another example of this error would be John McCain, he is in M instead of J. Any idea what could be causing these errors in categorization? Thanks and have a nice day.

edit: nevermind, we figured it out :).

  nikolaitttt  •  Talk   00:04, December 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I apologize, I was unable to fix John McCain. I was however able to fix Wendy! :)
 * craigicon.png  GamePlaya3159  •  Talk  craigicon.png 00:57, December 5, 2011 (UTC)